This article expatiates on the phenomenon of out-of-body experience(OBE) , astral projection , etheric projection and near-death experience based on the works of Sri Aurobindo and The Mother, who used the term exteriorization to denote all such phenomena. Please note that this post is *not* a how-to guide on astral projection. It is dangerous to forcibly attempt any kind of exteriorization or astral projection for it may put one into contact with malevolent supernatural forces which could even lead to one’s death. It is better to let exteriorization happen naturally with the practice of Yoga and under the guidance of an able Master/Guru.
To die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there’s the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause:
(Shakespeare. Hamlet Act 3, Scene 1)
The Yogic explanation of all out-of-body phenomena is based on the fact our being is composed of five major sheaths (see Constitution of Man) and that these sheaths correspond to various planes of the Universe(see Cosmology). Our total consciousness is not limited to the physical body but is actually distributed into the various sheaths. There are links which join these sheaths and the whole composite is held together by the psychic being (soul). At the time of death, the psychic being dissolves these links and then the various sheaths fall apart.
Note that there is no such thing as unconsciousness; what we experience during sleep, trance or fainting is just a transfer of consciousness between the various sheaths of our body. A Yogin accomplishes this transfer of consciousness from one sheath to another through meditation.
There are four states of consciousness as per the Mandukya Upanishad:
- Waking (Jagruti): In the waking state, our consciousness in terms of mind, vital and physical is focussed on the physical world.
- Dream (Swapna): When we fall asleep, our consciousness withdraws from the physical world and retreats into the occult mental and vital worlds. For a Yogin, this withdrawal of consciousness occurs as part of meditation itself. One may identify two stages in this dream state:
- The first stage we experience after falling asleep is a state of slumber where our consciousness lies submerged near the subconscient. After waking up from this state, we remember little except some incoherent images recorded in our own subconscient. In medical terms, this stage is called NREM or non-REM sleep.
- The next stage occurs when a major portion of our consciousness transfers into the vital or mental sheaths. This transfer occurs spontaneously in those who have well-developed Udana Prana (The Udana Prana or Upward Moving air is one of the five major Pranas which comprise the vital body or Pranamaya Kosha). This rise in consciousness enables our inner sheaths to separate from the physical body and travel independently in their own domain giving rise to the phenomenon called OBE. In medical terms, this dream experience occurs during REM sleep. Dreams and OBE occur more frequently than we assume but we do not remember them because our inner sheaths lack the ability to record what is happening in those other worlds. This inability to remember disappears with the practice of Integral Yoga when we are able to interiorize better (i.e. when growth in consciousness enables us to navigate effectively in the occult world.)
- Deep Sleep (Sushupti): Here, the consciousness shifts into the causal body and we experience the state of Divine Bliss (Sachchidananda) which refreshes and energizes the soul. In medical terms, this is called slow-wave sleep
- “The Fourth” (Turiya): This is the state which encompasses all the three described above. It is the state of a person who has gained liberation (salvation). The liberated soul is conscious of all sheaths at all times and is able to navigate unrestricted through the various occult worlds. It is as the Buddha described “I am awake” because there is no fall into the subconscient at any time.
Five kinds of exteriorization
Five kinds of exteriorization can be distinguished depending on which sheath makes an excursion into its corresponding world and the manner in which the excursion occurs.
Mental exteriorization
This is the easiest type and can occur naturally in those who have a strong sense of visualization. When you think of a person or object, your mental sheath extends itself in the mental world, your thought goes there and you may be able to feel the mental atmosphere of that person (e.g, what someone is thinking right now). This form of exteriorization does not require entering a state of trance. This is the basis of what parapsychology refers to as remote viewing.
Sri Aurobindo eludicated this form of exteriorization in a conversation with his disciple Pavitra.
When the vital body leaves the physical, the latter remains in trance, but if it is only the mind, this does not happen. The mind leaves, for instance, in meditation, and goes on a visit to certain places or certain planes. It can observe things there and even make itself felt. It is not even the whole mind which goes out thus, but a central portion, so to say. There are no dangers as of trance. If you are awakened, the mind comes back immediately without danger. It is not the same if the vital itself has gone out. A link ties it to the physical. As it is the life, if this thread is cut, death results. An abrupt recall is also dangerous. As a rule, it is better to acquire a certain experience of the mental going-out and a mental knowledge of the planes before attempting the exit in the vital body. [1]
This is how the Mother described it.
Mother, the other day you said that when one thinks of someone or something, one part of this thought goes there at once.
Yes. For example, I think of someone who is in Calcutta, then if my thought goes there, I ought to have the knowledge of…
Thought is only conscious of thought in the mental world. So you can become very conscious of the mental atmosphere of Calcutta, of the thought of the person to whom you go, but of nothing else, absolutely nothing that has to do with the vital and physical….But the mental exteriorisation occurs constantly. It puts you in contact only with the mental world. Perhaps if you are very conscious and the person you go to see is very conscious, and if at that moment he has formed opinions or ideas about something happening in Calcutta, then you can become conscious of the ideas of this person on what is happening – indirectly – but you are not directly conscious of the thing. [2]
Vital exteriorization
In this state, the mental and vital sheaths together leave the physical body to explore a vital world while still remaining bound to the body by a silver cord. About three-fourths of the consciousness can be said to have left the physical body in this situation. Some of the stories of disciples receiving initiation from adepts in a dream fall into this category.
There is a reference in the Bible to this silver cord which ties the life-force to the physical body
“Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern. Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.” – Ecclesiastes 12:6-12:7.
These are two instances of Ramakrishna Paramahansa talking about his exteriorization experiences.
Sometimes the visions were of the young sannyasin resembling himself. When he wished to see some deity of a distant place, or hear the singing of God’s glories here or there, the sannyasin would come out of the Master’s body in a shining form and travel to those places along a luminous path(i.e. silver cord). By that way he would come again and re-enter the body.
Sri Ramakrishna told him, when both had returned to the temple garden, ‘I was feeling a great yearning to see your worship; I went into bhavasamadhi and felt that I was going along a path of light (i.e. silver cord) and was present in your worship hall in a luminous body.’ [3]
Subtle physical exteriorization
In this state, the mental, vital and subtle physical sheaths travel together out of the physical body and move in a world which resembles the physical world, hence the appellation “subtle physical“. In this situation, since most of the consciousness has left the physical body, one enters a state of catalepsy where the body can become cold and rigid. However, the link connecting the other sheaths with the body still exists so re-entry is still possible.
Amal Kiran, a disciple of Sri Aurobindo, in a letter outlined how he was able to move about in a subtle physical world.
It’s come to be a habit now to get out of my body, time and again. Occasionally I just see with my closed, eyes. At other times I actually leave the body – and the coming back to it is often due to some disturbing thrust of impulse from it into the new condition. I am fully conscious when I leave the body and soon start testing the concreteness and reality of the things I am amidst by touching them. Usually I move about in my own room but now and then I go outside too. The room I move in is not quite the same as the physical: the furniture is arranged somewhat differently. My conclusion is that I move in a subtle body in a subtle plane; but is that always unavoidable? Does one’s subtle body never move in the very physical plane? In my latest experience I went to the pier, but the street through which I ran to reach the pier was of a strange kind because I moved, shortly after, from room to room, as through some deserted building. At last I glimpsed the sea; many boats were standing in dirty green water close to the shore. The word “lagoon” came to my mind. But further on I found myself in full sight of the sea. And it was an extremely beautiful spectacle. The water had a violet colour mixed with indigo and there was an atmosphere of magic as the large waves heaved and broke with spray and sparkle.
I have asked whether one is forced to explore only some subtle world. But take the following experience. I was meditating in my easy-chair. A book was lying on my left side where I had put it before closing my eyes there was a book-marker inserted at the page where I had stopped reading. Now, I went all numb, as I always do when these phenomena take place – but the eyes are exempted from the general paralysis, so to speak. I keep on opening them and thus swing from the consciousness of one plane to that of the other. This time, however, I opened my eyes and saw not only my own body lying inert, with my both arms dropped paralysed, but also a third arm free at the right shoulder, it was, of course, a subtle arm and could move. Immediately my experimentalist mind thought of a test. So I strained the third arm towards the book by my side, caught hold of the hook-marker and tried to full it out. I actually did pull it out, but imagine my surprise when I saw that though I was holding a book-marker in my subtle hand the original was still in the book! [4]
Sri Aurobindo’s responded by confirming that Amal Kiran had indeed found himself in a subtle-physical world.
It is evidently in a subtle world, not the physical-material that you move; that is evident from the different arrangement of things, but such details as the third arm and the book-marker removed yet there show that it is a subtle world very near to the physical; it is either a subtle-physical world or a very material vital domain. In all the subtle domains the physical is reproduced with a change, the change growing freer and more elastic as one gets farther away. Such details as the lameness show the same thing, — the hold of the physical is still there. [4]
Etheric projection
This is a variation of the subtle physical exteriorization called Etheric projection where the subtle physical sheath, instead of exploring the subtle-physical worlds, instead materializes into the physical world. Sri Aurobindo explicates this variant in a letter to a disciple.
It is possible to move about in the physical world, but usually that can only be done by drawing on the atmosphere of other physical beings for a stronger materialisation of the form – when that happens one moves among them and sees them and all the surroundings exactly as they are at that time in the physical world and one can verify the accuracy of the details if immediately after returning to the body (which is usually done with a clear consciousness of the whole process of getting into it) one can traverse the same scene in the physical body. [5]
Near-death experience
The most extreme form of exteriorization called NDE occurs when all other sheaths leave the physical body and enter what the Mother referred to as the Domain of Death, where one first receives a review of the current life before the sheaths are dissolved. At this point, the links to the physical body have been cut and if one tries to re-enter the physical body again, it requires some effort. This corresponds to the case where a person who was thought to be clinically dead for some time suddenly comes back alive. In the words of the Mother:
The experience I am speaking about is still much more difficult. Once one has gone out like that and left his body in a cataleptic state, one cuts the links. So, one is really dead; that is, the heart beats no longer. But as there is still “the life of the form”, and it is not through an accident that one has left, as it is by an act of will with knowledge and power, one can force one’s way back, re-establish the connection and come back forcibly into one’s body. It is not a comfortable business – the whole thing is difficult. Like that, on paper it seems to be nothing at all. But it is not easy. [6]
Summary of various methods
| Exteriorization | How does it work | Travel into which world |
| Mental | Mental sheath extends itself. Possible without deep trance. | Mental worlds |
| Vital | Mental, Vital sheaths separate but remain connected to physical body with a silver cord. About 75 percent of consciousness has left the physical body. | Vital worlds |
| Subtle-physical | Mental, Vital, Subtle-physical leave the body. Body becomes cold and rigid. State of catalepsy. | Subtle-physical worlds |
| Etheric projection | Mental, Vital, Subtle-physical separate and materialize in the physical world. | Physical worlds |
| Near-death experience | Mental, Vital, Subtle-physical leave the body. Silver cord is cut and then one re-enters the body. | Domain of death |
Two ways to exteriorize
The Mother identified two ways of exteriorizing: through the heart and through the head via the Brahmarandhra(anterior fontanelle).
You must go out through here (the heart) – you can go out through the top of the head, but it’s more difficult. You must leave through the heart and return the same way. It’s quite natural; it’s the first thing you learn when you want to exteriorize. The whole consciousness has to be concentrated here (the heart), and that’s where you go out. And you must reenter the same way and maintain the link. [7]
Rebutting the simulated OBE
In light of the above passages, let us examine the simulated OBE reported here or here. Neuroscientists conducted experiments which simulated OBE by tricking the senses into imagining that the physical body is in a different location.
By deliberately scrambling a person’s visual and tactile senses, it is now possible to give them an “out-of-body” experience.
Two procedures – which are the first to imitate an out-of-body experience artificially – use cameras to fool people into thinking they are standing or sitting somewhere else in a room. They provide the strongest proof yet that people only imagine floating out of their bodies during surgery or near-death experiences.
The primary objection with regards to this experiment is that it was conducted on subjects who were awake whereas OBEs have been traditionally reported during when subjects are asleep, when the senses are inactive and the consciousness has withdrawn from the physical world. Scientists need to demonstrate that senses can be tricked in sleep as well and that this can cause an OBE to occur. Can science induce a sleeping man to dream that he or she is floating in the air ?
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References
- Pavitra. Conversations with Sri Aurobindo.
- Mother Mirra Alfassa. Collected Works of the Mother, Vol 7, 6 July 1955.
- Swami Yogeshananda. The visions of Sri Ramakrishna. Sri Ramakrishna Math(Madras), 1973.
- Amal Kiran. Poet and Critic, p29.
- Sri Aurobindo. Letters on Yoga, Experiences of the Inner and the Cosmic Consciousness, p 1029.
- Mother Mirra Alfassa. Collected Works of the Mother, Vol 6-7, 10th March 1954.
- Mother’s Agenda, Vol 3, Sept 5 1962.

Stated above that one must leave through the heart to exteriorize but not exactly true.
I have exteriorized completely free of all body chakra’s, that is well beyond the heart chakra.
Heart chakra is a good starting point to work up or out from.
Jim,
Thanks for the comment. It probably occurs naturally in your case.
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Gerard,
This article reflects my current understanding. It will be helpful if you could indicate the exact problem.
Thanks
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l’ve had these OBE’s most of my life but l stopped making the attempts, because l read by the Mother that it’s best not to do these things until we have developed a certain degree of purity [psychic purity l assume], as there are many illusions and dangers in these other worlds [intermediate zone etc]. Although, l never had any bad experiences.
As for going out through the heart centre, l’m not sure if l ever did. What usually happens with me is thart l’m looking at the blank space between my eyes [ajna chakra] and a road will appear. lf l follow the road [requires some effort] l find myself out of the body. Or, occasionally, l feel my subtle body spinning round and l whip out like that. l also wake in the morning and and just roll out – this is possibly the best. Of, course l also wake in sleep or feel more conscious than usual in certain dreams.
ln fact l had an OBE recently. l found myself in the subtle world [l think.l usually find the worlds closer to the physical aren't as brightly colored as the higher one's] but l immediately called on Sri Aurobindo with a mantra l use, and his face appeared instantly [huge face] and then l believe he put someone in front of me [possibly a disciple - didn't recognise him but he was smiling].
One thing l’ve never understood is where we go in the after-life if our sheaths are dissolved and the Psychic Being goes to rest as The Mother says. Presumably, if we are not Psychically aware we carry on living on some astral or mental plane – but if the sheaths are gone???
l know in Yogananda’s book ‘autobiography of a yogi’ the death process is described in detail by Sri Yukteswar [his guru] and apparently,we go to some compatible plane until we evolve and that body then dissolves for us to go to the next level. All a bit confusing lol.
Mike: One thing l’ve never understood is where we go in the after-life if our sheaths are dissolved and the Psychic Being goes to rest as The Mother says. Presumably, if we are not Psychically aware we carry on living on some astral or mental plane – but if the sheaths are gone???
If you are not psychically aware, then the sheaths dissolve one by one, and finally the psychic being goes to rest in what is known as the psychic world. For psychic world, See Collected Works of the Mother vol. 3:62-63; vol 4:165,228-29; vol 15:6; and vol 17:368-70.
If you are psychically aware, then the psychic being integrates the mental or vital sheaths around itself and consequently, “you” continue to survive on some astral or mental plane. This is the case with advanced beings, and is probably what Yogananda was talking about when he discusses the vision of other worlds that Sri Yukteswar gave him. As Yukteswar describes, “It is called Hiranyaloka or ‘Illumined Astral Planet.’ There I am aiding advanced beings to rid themselves of astral karma and thus attain liberation from astral rebirths. The dwellers on Hiranyaloka are highly developed spiritually; all of them had acquired, in their last earth-incarnation, the meditation-given power of consciously leaving their physical bodies at death. No one can enter Hiranyaloka unless he has passed on earth beyond the state of sabikalpa samadhi into the higher state of nirbikalpa samadhi”. The quote is from the book online at http://crystalclarity.com/yogananda/chap43.html
On the subject of advanced beings, there is a parallel discussion where the Mother was asked how Vivekananda could guide Sri Aurobindo after his death. She explained that it could be because Vivekananda had integrated the mental sheath around his psychic being. Here is the dialogue:
Thanks for those replies Sandeep. l’m still curious about those on planes below Hiranyaloka [ordinary people who end up in some astral/mental region]. l think yukteswar says there’s a lot of fighting amoung the residents of the lower astral [mantra bombs etc]. l suppose people on these planes carry on as they did on earth, only with greater senses, until that body dissolves or they re-incarnate. l have read of some staying on an astral plane for thousands of years simply because they didn’t want to move on. Dr Hiroshi Motoyama [japanese yogi] wrote about a japanese emperor who chose to stay back in this way, surrounded by all his armies, wives, concubines of course lol. lt’s a very interesting book ‘Karma and Reincarnation: The Key to Spiritual Evolution and Enlightenment’.
Mike: l’m still curious about those on planes below Hiranyaloka
I can’t answer that because I haven’t experienced them
Hiroshi Motoyama’s book has been reviewed here
http://nextfuture.sriaurobindosociety.org.in/feb05/nffeb05_room.htm
According to the review above, Motoyama’s book mentions the case of a woman who was prone to depression because she committed suicide in her past life:
This is similar to the case of Satprem, who was prone to a general feeling of angst. According to Tantric Guru, Satprem had committed suicide in his past three lives (the first by fire, the second by hanging, and the third by throwing myself into the void). See Agenda, June 25, 1959.
Both Sri Aurobindo and the Mother have said that suicide creates dreadful Karma for future lives. See Agenda, Nov 22, 1958. and this quote from Sri Aurobindo
It’s quite revealing that, in the experience of Satprem, “For two other lives, under the influence of these beings, the same drama was repeated with a few variations.”
It makes me wonder if most of us, unknowingly, repeat the same drama life after life, with few variations, with similar roles among the same beings, until a moment of awareness makes us not commit the same mistakes and “leave the loop”, this is, abandon a mechanic behaviour (response) for a conscious one?
It’s been always an intuition of mine that some present relationships (i.e. my sister, parents, etc.) come from “long ago”.
MT: It makes me wonder if most of us, unknowingly, repeat the same drama life after life, with few variations, with similar roles among the same beings
In this context, the Mother once said that one can change the past – in the sense that one can change the past Karmic formations which continue to afflict us. The following is from Agenda October 26, 1966
Dear Sandeep,
I have read the reference given by you regarding Hiranyaloka(“Resurrection of Sri Yukteshwar”) . I am just wondering is this Hiranyaloka same as Supramental world which Sri Aurobindo and Mother are talking about. For example Mother has talked about Supramental world in her Agenda {see link : Supramental ship }.
thanks
The supramental world (symbolized as a ship) spoken of there is the one that exists in the subtle physical (the domain of consciousness closest to the Earth-physical). I have no idea if it corresponds to what Sri Yukteswar describes as Hiranyaloka. Although Hiranya means golden, I am inclined to reserve judgement on matters beyond my ken!
Note that this supramental world is different from the Supermind plane (Maharloka, Vijnanaloka) which is the fourth in the seven planes of creation (Sat, Chit, Ananda, Supermind, Mind, Vital, Physical)
Thanks for the links Sandeep.
l was reading the bit about past-life regression on the Motoyama link. What’s your opinion of this. l believe SA and The Mother weren’t too keen on things like hypnosis.
l think the mother said a lot of past life memories were just a subconscious mixture and usually false, or something like that, and if we want a true memory of our past lives we need contact with the Psychic Being first.
Also, in that link it mentions the Akashic Records [which cayce was supposed to have accessed as well], but l’ve never heard Sri Aurobindo or Mother mention this. Have you come across any info on it by them.
l’d forgotten that Satprem had committed suicide in 3 lives. l’m not sure what ‘throwing yourself into the void’ means – don’t you need to be a realised being to do that, and if so, would that be suicide???
Also, would Euthenasia be classed as suicide? That’s a big question these days – with it’s rise in popularity now.
So much to understand LOL. Sorry to bombard you with so many questions.
I think that “throwing yourself into the void” means, literally, throwing yourself physically from a high place (a building, a mountain…).
As per hypnosis, I don’t think it is advisable at all. Vivekananda in his book on Raja Yoga, chapter 3 (prana) advised against it. The book is available online for free if you want to read it yourself.
Sorry, I’m not really sure this was the book and/or chapter, and I can’t check it now. It certainly was a book by Vivekananda.
MT: Vivekananda in his book on Raja Yoga, chapter 3 (prana) advised against it
You are right but slightly off on the chapter number. Hypnotism is discussed in chapter 4.
The Mother Mirra has also commented on the adverse effects of hypnotism
In another conversation, she said, ” I don’t approve of hypnotism. I have seen many cases of so-called hypnotism in which the forces remain behind and the subjects lend themselves to be used by the forces. What is hypnotism? Doesn’t it mean that the subject’s will-power is replaced by somebody else’s? ” (Nirodbaran, Talks with Sri Aurobindo, 4 Jan 1939, vol. 1 , p 103)
Based on observations of Sri Aurobindo, the Mother and Vivekananda, it is not advisable to subject oneself to hypnosis in order to recover past life information. If you are destined to know, it will be revealed to you when your psychic being comes to the front. You are right when you state: “mother said a lot of past life memories were just a subconscious mixture and usually false…if we want a true memory of our past lives we need contact with the Psychic Being first.”
Akashic records are not mentioned by name but are discussed in various places. For instance, in Savitri, Book 1, Canto 5
See the section “Record of world history is kept in the mental world” under the Cosmology page
MIke: would Euthenasia be classed as suicide?
There is one recorded conversation where Sri Aurobindo seems to have no qualms about euthanasia. The following exchange is from Nirodbaran’s book Talks with Sri Aurobindo dated 7 Dec 1940
Mike: Sorry to bombard you with so many questions
No problem
I had some out of body and near death experiences while doing healing.
l remember the Dalai Lama not advocating Euthenasia based on some karmic theory. He even said he’d like to die painfully with cancer because of the karma he would rid himself of.
l’m inclined to ally myself with Euthenasia, though. l don’t feel we need to go through atrocious suffering [unless it's part of yoga]. ln something like alzheimers, most people don’t know where they are anyway [although those around us might learn a lot about compassion - perhaps]
Sandeep your a minefield of information, and this site is a goldmine. Thanx.
Buddhist views on euthanasia can be found at euthanasia.procon.organd on wikipedia. The Dalai Lama prefers a case-by-case approach.
This is another conversation where Sri Aurobindo refers to the complexity of decisions regarding euthanasia.
yes exactly, it’s a matter of having the right knowledge. Personally, if l see someone suffering, l just ask the Divine to deal with it [usually repeating a mantra with the names of Sri Aurobindo and mother in it].
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” In the words of the Mother:
The experience I am speaking about is still much more difficult. Once one has gone out like that and left his body in a cataleptic state, one cuts the links. So, one is really dead; that is, the heart beats no longer. But as there is still “the life of the form”, and it is not through an accident that one has left, as it is by an act of will with knowledge and power, one can force one’s way back, re-establish the connection and come back forcibly into one’s body. It is not a comfortable business – the whole thing is difficult. Like that, on paper it seems to be nothing at all. But it is not easy”
l don’t quite understand the above reference to NDE’s. l saw a program last night on this subject and, of course they’re hearts did stop, but they were then put back in their bodies [some are even told it's not their time and pushed back into the body].
The Mother seems to be talking about a person who is consciously able to leave at will, l think, [aka Her experience with Theon when Her cord was accidentally cut]. Otherwise, with ordinary ppl this seems to be done by a Higher Power [Psychic Being probably].
I don’t know what the people said about their NDEs on the program you saw, but the difference could be between partial and total exteriorization discussed at http://auromere.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/on-death-burials-cremations-funerals-and-resurrection/ in this passage:
Disciple: I was seriously ill, unconscious for two hours, and I had the impression that I had gone over to the other side, that I was in a different world. When I came back to myself, I had the impression of having made a long journey in a world quite different from the one where I normally lived.
Mother: It was a partial exteriorisation; it was not a total exteriorisation which indeed causes death. If one goes out entirely, that is, if there is a complete separation from the body and one is really dead, and then one comes back, that causes such an intense suffering that one cannot forget it. It is said that babies cry when they come into the world because the first contact with air makes them cry, but I think it is something else. The re-entry into the body causes a kind of friction, for what goes out has to be something very material if it is to bring about death, something even more material than the subtle physical, and this friction is extremely painful. Otherwise one may be externally unconscious, but one is not dead for all that. It is only when something extremely material goes out of the body and all ties are broken that there is truly “death”. And that is why (I believe we are beginning to discover it) people do not die till six or seven days after their death. That is, they are not “dead” as long as the body remains intact, but only when a part of the body begins to decompose. Hence during this period, someone who has the necessary knowledge, power and capacity may “raise” a person in such a state. I believe this explains most of the cases of “miraculous” resurrection
( Collected Works of the Mother, vol. 4, p 142.)
Yes, Sandeep, that sounds right. lt must be a ‘partial exteriorisation’ in most, if not all NDE’s. A lot of these NDE ppl also say they’re in the Presence of God. l’m trying to think of examples where people have forced their way back into the body when it’s dead, as Mother says. Apart from the great suffering would there be other signs too???.
l know She mentioned that lower vital beings take the opportunity to jump in sometimes [especially when babies are apparently dead and then suddenly re-awaken], and if the walk-in theory is correct, [never heard SA or Mother mention it] then they will take over that body.
Of course, there are quite a few people who get negative NDE’s and say they descend into some hellish place.
Mike: Apart from the great suffering would there be other signs too???.
I imagine the body would experience rigor mortis
Mike: l know She mentioned that lower vital beings take the opportunity to jump in sometimes [especially when babies are apparently dead and then suddenly re-awaken], and if the walk-in theory is correct, [never heard SA or Mother mention it] then they will take over that body.
I don’t know what you part you meant when you said “never heard SA or Mother mention it”, but the possession of the body by another has been discussed
Disciple : Is it possible to revitalize the dead?
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Sri Aurobindo : That is possible. Just as you can revive a drowned man by pulling his physical organs into function again, that is, by resorting to physical devices life can be restored. If you know how to reintroduce the power that sets the organs to action, after the body is wounded or dead, you can revive the man.
The real question is whether it is the being of the man that comes back to life, or it is some other spirit that wants to live and gets hold of the body. Both are possible, because revival is done in two ways : One, is to bring back the spirit of the man which is still not far away, the other is to get some other spirit that consents to come.
(A.B.Purani. Evening Talks, Third Series, 16th January, 1939)
“the other is to get some other spirit that consents to come”
Yes, that does sound like a walk-in. So, l suppose the body can be brought back to life even if the ‘Silver Chord’ has been severed – if it’s repaired or re-connected somehow.
“I imagine the body would experience rigor mortis”
l see. l obviously missed the point here lol. For some reason l was thinking the body would be re-animated, but the Mother is plainly talking about ordinary people and not trained adepts. Obviously if there’s rigor mortis, then it wouldn’t be possible to stay in that body for long, or if they did the suffering would be intense while they were stuck inside it. l suppose only very materialistic ppl would even want to do that, though.