Cases of reincarnation between Hindus and Muslims

In this article, we present some fascinating cases of people being reborn into a different religion which were investigated by Dr Antonia Mills, currently Professor at the University of Northern British Columbia.  When evidence of this kind surfaces, it can spur introspection into the validity of varying religious practices that people fastidiously observe because we are abruptly confronted with the fact that behind those holy foods and holy clothes and prayer rituals, we are indeed innately the same – all orphans of the One Divine; that our religious beliefs are just condensed thought-forms affirmed consistently in the  mind, which, if relinquished, might obliviously open us to the nature of the Ultimate Reality.

Image: Child dressed as Krishna riding with Muslim parents.  Originally posted by Aurovrata Venet @ http://we2our2.blogspot.com/2012/07/india-land-of-unity-in-diversity.html. Click image to go to source

The cases of rebirth listed in this article occurred between Hindus and Muslims in India.  In eight of these cases a Muslim child is said to have recalled the life of a Muslim. In seven cases a Muslim child is said to have recalled a life as a Hindu, and in 11 cases a Hindu child is said to have recalled the life of a Muslim.  Of the 26 cases, 5 of the subjects were female.  Not surprisingly, Antonia encountered  considerable apprehension, resistance and even hostility while crossing the religious boundaries existing between the families of the subjects.  These results have been published in her two-part paper “Moslem Cases of the Reincarnation Type in Northern India” [1, 2].   What follows are some interesting anecdotes from her papers.

The first case she mentions occurred in 1927.  K.K.N Sahay, a lawyer from Bareilly, investigated a case of Muslim-to-Muslim rebirth and was able to obtain a signed affidavit from the relatives of the current and previous personality.  This affidavit is reproduced in Sahay’s 1927 book Reincarnation: Verified cases of rebirth after death [3].  It reads as follows:

My daughter Pirbin died at the age of five. One year after her death the daughter of Mohammed Madari Khan of this village gave birth to a girl child. When the girl was five years old, I chanced one day to go on some business to the house in which she was living. She recognized me and called me “Father.” I brought her to my house with me and she recognized my wife as her mother and my two sons are her brothers. She also knew my parents, grandparents, two brothers, and near relatives of this village; namely, Mordan Khan, Pir Khan, Alisher Khan, Sahib Khan, Tej Khan, etc. She even told which things of the house she had used as her own. She is now with her husband, Mohammed Khandan Khan in Sarolly Village of [District] Bareiily.

(Signed) Mohammed Jahan Khan Hafiz
(Dated) October 17, 1926

Witnesses Signature
Hakim Babu Ram (Landlord of Karanpur Vill.)

Thumb Impressions
(1) Mohammed Mordan Khan (Village Head) (2) Mohammed Nur Khan (Village Head by government nomination) (3) Mohammed Rashid Khan (4) Mohammed Monser Khan (5) Mohammed Jaber Khan (6) Mohammed Mir Sahib (7) Mohammed Maduri Khan

Antonia Mills then lists various cases that she herself investigated and whose records exist at the Division of Perceptual Studies at the University of Virginia.

These are a few details of Muslims who claimed to have been Hindus in a past life:

  • Umar Khan refused to eat meat, saying he was Hindu.
  • Mohammed Hanif Khan initially refused to eat fish (the previous personality did not eat fish).  He wanted a Rakhi thread tied on him when he observed the practice of this Hindu ceremony which celebrates the brother-sister bond.
  • Noor Bano refused to eat meat; in fact, Noor’s mother indulged her in her vegetarian desires, although her father had been unaware that his wife cooked food for her separately.
  • Nasruddin Shah refused to eat beef or fish, although he would eat mutton.  He  resisted the Muslim religion and would not say Muslim prayers or go to the mosque.

And these are a few instances of Hindus who claimed to have been Muslims in a past life:

  • Mukul Bhauser was observed bowing to perform namaz (traditional Muslim prayer) even before he could speak.
  • Kailash Narain Mishra also performed namaz. He wanted meat and special dishes for Muslim festivals, about which he used to talk.
  • Archana Shastri when two and a half years old was observed to say namaz for her father’s health when he was ill.  Thereafter, and for some time, she practiced namaz at 5:00 a.m. and 9:00 p.m.
  • Hirdesh K. Saxena said namaz until he was five years old, and he wanted to go to Muslim services.
  • Giriraj Soni began to practice namaz before his parents suspected he might be having memories of a previous life.  He was continuing to do so up to the age of seven and a half; he was also attending the services at the local mosque each Friday.  He asked for mutton and eggs although his parents were vegetarian.
  • Manoj Nigam did not perform namaz but recalled that when falling to his (the previous personality’s) death he had called “Allah.”
  • Subhash Singhal practiced namaz when about three years old, and felt very attracted to ladies wearing the black outer covering worn by Muslim women in public in India.  Even when he was thirty-five years old, he would continue to go to a Muslim shrine to pray whenever he was troubled or wanted special divine assistance. He had introduced his wife to this shrine, but had never mentioned to his father that he was following this non-Hindu custom, suspecting parental disapproval.  He asked for Muslim food on a Muslim holiday.

The case of Naresh Kumar Raydas

The paper provides extensive information on the case of Naresh Kumar Raydas (henceforth called Naresh) who was born in Baj Nagar about April 1981.

When Naresh first started speaking, at the age of about two years, he often said, “Kakori, Kakori” and also “karka, karka,” which means “horse-cart” in the local dialect.  From the time Naresh was about two years old, he was sometimes observed kneeling down at home as if to perform namaz, the Muslim form of ritual prayer.  By August 1987, when Naresh was about six years old, he repeatedly began claiming that he was a Muslim and from Kakori.   He asked a Muslim Fakir who used to visit their house, “Don’t you recognize me? In my house there are five neem trees. I was hit by a tractor.”  He asked the Fakir to take him home with him, which the Fakir declined to do.  The next morning Naresh persuaded his mother to take him to the Fakir’s house in Kakori. Naresh’s mother told the Fakir that on the way she had asked someone for directions to the Fakir’s house. Naresh responded with annoyance, saying, “You mean I don’t know? Come, I will show you.” Naresh’s mother told the Fakir that Naresh then led her to the Fakir’s house, which is in an area of Kakori where he and his mother had never been before.

When they arrived, Naresh again called the Fakir “my Abba [Father].” Naresh called the Fakir’s wife Amma (Mother).   It turns out that Naresh in his previous life had been Mushir Ali Shah (henceforth called Mushir), the eldest son of the Fakir Haider Ali Shah by his second wife. Mushir had lived with his parents in the town of Kakori. He was employed driving a horse-cart filled with fruit or vegetables from Kakori to the market at Lucknow.  He was approximately twenty-five years old when, on June 30, 1980, a tractor struck him and his cart filled with mangos. Mushir died on the spot, which was on the road from Kakori to Lucknow where it passes about a half kilometer from the village of Baj Nagar.

During the visit to his previous home, Naresh proceeded to recognize Mushir’s brothers and a sister  present, as well as the sister’s husband, whom he called by name, Mohammed Islam.  Naresh then pointed out one of five metal suitcases inside the house, said it was his, and asked for the key. He described the contents before opening it, saying (according to the Fakir) that there were three rupees and his cap in the trunk, When he opened it, these items were inside. The Fakir and his wife said that they had not known there were three rupees inside Mushir’s trunk.

Naresh then asked the Fakir’s wife, Najima, “Where is my younger brother, Nasim?” She said he was sleeping. Naresh went to him and hugged him and started kissing him. Najima then asked Naresh how many brothers and sisters he had. Naresh said that he had five brothers and six sisters and that one of the sisters was a stepsister. This was correct for the time Mushir was alive.  Najima, pointing to Sabiah, a girl about six years old, then asked him who she was. Naresh said, “She was in your stomach at that time.” This youngest child of the Fakir’s was born three months after the death of Mushir.

Naresh recognized a number of people from Kakori who had gathered at the Fakir’s house on Naresh’s first visit. One of these was the wife of a man called Zaheed, and he is said to have asked her, “Have you not given my 300 rupees to my Abba?” In fact, three days after Mushir’s death Zaheed had given the Fakir the 300 rupees that Mushir had deposited with him.  Naresh was asked if he recognized a particular old lady who arrived at the Fakir’s house. This lady told me that he had not. However, Mushir’s mother said that Naresh, out of this lady’s hearing, had said that she was “Shafique’s wife who lives near the mosque.” This was correct.

When Naresh was going to be sent back home from the Fakir’s house with five rupees, he said, “What do you mean? That you will send me off without giving me tea and egg?” Mushir had been very fond of tea, eggs, and semia. Tea and eggs were foods that he had every day.

Muslims do not traditionally believe in reincarnation but the Fakir changed his view after observing the boy.  After Naresh approached him and said he was his son, the Fakir felt deeply troubled. Unable to sleep, at midnight he prayed, “Allah, what is this mystery?” Naresh’s remarks convinced the Fakir that Naresh was his son Mushir reborn. At first the Fakir’s wife was shocked that a young boy claimed to be her son. However, she too became convinced that Naresh was her son reborn. In recounting the events, the Fakir and his wife were moved to tears. The Fakir’s voice shook with emotion every time he recounted the incidents.

A poem by Kabir

Kabir (1440—1518) was a mystic poet and saint of India.  Read more about him at wikipedia

O servant, where dost thou seek Me?

O servant, where dost thou seek Me?

Lo ! I am beside thee.

I am neither in temple nor in mosque:
I am neither in Kaaba nor in Kailash:

Neither am I in rites and ceremonies,
nor in Yoga and renunciation.

If thou art a true seeker, thou shalt at once see Me:
thou shalt meet Me in a moment of time.

Kabir says, ‘ O Sadhu ! God is the breath of all breath.’

References

  1. Antonia Mills.  Moslem Cases of the Reincarnation Type in Northern India: A Test of the Hypothesis of Imposed Identification Part I: Analysis of 26 Cases. Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 4, No. 2, pp. 171 – 188, 1990.
  2. Antonia Mills.  Moslem Cases of the Reincarnation Type in Northern India: A Test of the Hypothesis of Imposed Identification Part II: Reports of Three Cases. Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 4, No. 2, pp. 189-202, 1990.
  3. K.C. Sahay. Reincarnation: Verified cases of rebirth after death. Bareilly: N. L. Gupta, 1927.

See also:

  1. Difference between religion and spirituality
  2. How religions are formed
  3. Explaining out-of-body and near-death experiences
  4. Does population growth invalidate reincarnation?
  5. The Aurobindonian model of Karma
  6. Memory transference in organ transplant recipients
  7. How can we “see” in our dreams when our eyes are closed?
  8. Hermeneutics: how to read holy scriptures
  9. The existence of vital signs during sleep or coma
  10. Are earthquakes due to Divine retribution?
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31 thoughts on “Cases of reincarnation between Hindus and Muslims

  1. Anirudh Kumar Satsangi

    SCIENTIFIC AWARENESS OF REINCARNATION : BASES FOR A NEW UNIVERSAL RELIGION

    According to Dr. Granville Dharmawardena of Colombo University reincarnation may be defined as the re-embodiment of an immaterial part of a person after a short or a long interval after death, in a new body whence it proceeds to lead a new life in the new body more or less unconscious of its past existences, but containing within itself the “essence” of the results of its past lives, which experience goes to make up its new character or personality.
    In the seventeenth century Rene Descartes divided everything in the universe into two realms as “Res Extensa” (matter) and “Res Cogitans” (mind). Gathering knowledge within the realm of Res Extensa was called Science and the phenomenon of reincarnation got pushed into the other realm Res Cogitans which was not considered suitable for scientific probing. Science developed in the framework of Res Estensa is known as “Classical Science”. Classical science had tremendous material achievements because it helped all round growth of technology which brought about prosperity to mankind. The air of frame work of Classical Science was blown out by Henry Becquerel in 1896 by the discovery of Radioactivity. The discovery of Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein in early 20th Century gave it further blow. The advent of Quantum Theory and the Uncertainty Principle did the rest. It is significant to note that Einstein’s discovery fall entirely within the frame work of Res Cogitans as it did not involve any experiments or measurements. Gravitation Force Theory of Newton is also an example of such observation and intuition work involving no experiments and measurements.

    Modern Science enhanced man’s knowledge surpassing the restrictions imposed by the five senses and took us to hidden areas of nature and profound changes had been introduced in procedures of science. Our ability to understand everything by way of perceptible mental pictures is reduced and it became necessary to imagine models with components which behaved in ways that had no counterparts at all in the world familiar to us. In most cases mechanisms involved in these models not only are imperceptible but also consist of elements that operate in ways never known in the world that we actually experience through sensory inputs.
    Modern science tied up the two realms, Res Extensa and Res Cogitans and made us to understand that they are not independent and cannot be completely studied independently. Within the establishment of modern science some of the aspects of nature that did not strictly adhere to the realm of Res Extensa, which were therefore earlier condemned as unbecoming of scientists to talk about have become respectable. Reincarnation falls into this category
    Reincarnation is a very old belief and a large fraction of the world population believes it. For example Rene Descartes’ statement “What I have said is sufficient to show clearly enough that the extinction of the mind does not follow from the corruption of the body and also to give men the hope of another life after death” in 1641 confirms his belief in reincarnation. About 20 percent of those in the Western World whose religions shun reincarnation nevertheless believe it. According to opinion polls this percentage is rising.
    Lisa Miller, Religion Editor of Newsweek says that Americans are becoming more Hindus. According to 2008 Harris Poll 24% of Americans say they believe in reincarnation
    Steven J Rosen writes in The Reincarnation Controversy, Uncovering the Truth in World Religions (New Age Books) that belief in reincarnation allows us to see ourselves as architects of our own future. Rosen raises certain queries,‘ what is it that reincarnates from one body to another? Is it the soul? the mind? the intellect? To understand this we should suggest answer to these questions. We all know that there are four fundamental forces in the universe viz., gravitation force, electromagnetic force, weak nuclear force and strong nuclear force. I have written a paper entitled ‘Gravitation Force is the Ultimate Creator’ and presented it at the 1st International Conference on Revival of Traditional Yoga held in Lonavla Yoga Institute, Lonavla in January 2006. In this paper I have defined soul (individual consciousness), mind and body. According to this every point of action of Gravitational Force Field is individual consciousness or soul, electromagnetic force as the force of mind and weak and strong nuclear force as the gross material force which constitute physical frame of body.
    Consciousness is All Intelligent and pervades everywhere. Although all other remaining three forces are also intelligent but they are subordinate to Gravitational Force. THIS DESCRIPTION WILL HELP TO UNDERSTAND ‘WHAT IS IT THAT REINCARNATES FROM ONE BODY TO ANOTHER.
    According to Buddhism this is not the supreme atman or soul that ties one life to another, instead it talks about past lives as evolvement of consciousness, emergence of a new personality from the same stream of consciousness.
    Reincarnation is not an exclusively Eastern precept. It is contained in some form in almost every major religion and mystical philosophy. Research indicates that it was an accepted doctrine, at least in some quarters, at the time of Christ, and is still an integral part of some sects of the Jewish tradition. The Bible contain no condemnation of the principle of reincarnation, and in fact, when Christ was asked when Elijah would return, he answered that Elijah had returned, referring to John the Baptist.
    Sakina Yusuf Khan writes in an article A Night Of Forgiveness published in The Speaking Tree: “It (Shab-e-Barat) is also a festival associated with the dead. It is believed that the souls of the dead are set free on this night to visit their relatives.” What this indicates? This is a belief in reincarnation, of course in subtle body. Sadia Dehlvi also writes in her article Jesus In Islam published in The Speaking Tree (August 29, 2010) that both Islam and Christianity believe that Christ will return to destroy the Antichrist. This is affirmation to reincarnation although in some restricted sense.
    It is clear from the above descriptions that both Islam and Christianity appear not to opposed to reincarnation. Of course, they don’t believe reincarnation in broader sense as Hindus do.
    Unaccomplished activities of past lives are also one of the causes for reincarnation. Some of us reincarnate to complete the unfinished tasks of previous birth. The is evident from my own story of reincarnation:
    “My most Revered Guru of my previous life His Holiness Maharaj Sahab, 3rd Spiritual Head of Radhasoami Faith had revealed this secret to me during trance like state of mine. This was sort of REVELATION.
    HE told me, “Tum Sarkar Sahab Ho” (You are Sarkar Sahab). Sarkar Sahab was one of the most beloved disciple of His Holiness Maharj Sahab. Sarkar Sahab later on became Fourth of Spiritual Head Radhasoami Faith.
    Since I don’t have any direct realization of it so I can not claim the extent of its correctness. But it seems to be correct. During my previous birth I wanted to sing the song of ‘Infinite’ (Agam Geet yeh gawan chahoon tumhri mauj nihara, mauj hoi to satguru soami karoon supanth vichara) but I could not do so then since I had to leave the mortal frame at a very early age. But through the unbounded Grace and Mercy of my most Revered Guru that desire of my past birth is being fulfilled now.”
    I am one the chief expounder and supporter of Gravitation Force Theory of God. This is most scientific and secular theory of God. This is the Theory of Universal Religion. I have given Higher Theory of Everything. Sometimes back I posted this as comments to a blog on:
    ‘Fighting of the Cause of Allah by Governing a Smart Mathematics Based on Islamic Teology’
    By Rohedi of Rohedi Laboratories, Indonesia. Rohedi termed my higher theory of everything more wonderful than which has been developed by Stephen Hawking. Some details are quoted below:
    rohedi
    @anirudh kumar satsangi
    Congratulation you have develop the higher theory of everything more wonderful than which has been developed by Stephen Hawking. Hopefully your some views for being considered for Unified Field Theory are recognized by International Science Community, hence I soon read the fundamental aspect proposed by you.
    I have posted my comments to the Blog of Syed K. Mirza on Evolutionary Science vs. Creation Theory, and Intellectual Hypocrisy. Syed Mirza seems to be a very liberal muslim. He responded to my comments as mentioned below.
    “Many thanks for your very high thought explanations of God.
    You said:
    “Hence it can be assumed that the Current of Chaitanya (Consciousness) and Gravitational Wave are the two names of the same Supreme Essence (Seed) which has brought forth the entire creation. Hence it can be assumed that the source of current of consciousness and gravitational wave is the same i.e. God or ultimate creator.
    (i) Gravitation Force is the Ultimate Creator, Source of Gravitational Wave is God”
    Whatever you call it, God is no living God of any religion. Yes, when I call it “Mother Nature” is the God generated from all Natural forces and Gravitational force is the nucleus of all forces or we can presume that Gravitation is the ultimate guiding principle of this Mother Nature we call it non-living God unlike living personal God of religions. I can not believe any personal God would do so much misery created for its creation. Hence, only non-living natural God can explain everything in the Universe. When we think of any living personal God, things do not ad up!”
    I have also discovered the mathematical expression for emotional quotient (E.Q.) and for spiritual quotient (S.Q.).
    Austrian Scientist Rudolf Steiner says,
    “Just as an age was once ready to receive the Copernican theory of the universe, so is our age ready for the idea of reincarnation to be brought into the general consciousness of humanity”.

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    1. Sandeep Post author

      Thanks for the detailed comment although I currently disagree with your contention given below that the Gravitational Force is the ultimate creator.

      I have written a paper entitled ‘Gravitation Force is the Ultimate Creator’ and presented it at the 1st International Conference on Revival of Traditional Yoga held in Lonavla Yoga Institute, Lonavla in January 2006. In this paper I have defined soul (individual consciousness), mind and body. According to this every point of action of Gravitational Force Field is individual consciousness or soul, electromagnetic force as the force of mind and weak and strong nuclear force as the gross material force which constitute physical frame of body.

      Hopefully, as science advances, your proposition will undergo thorough examination and get accorded its true worth.

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  6. mike

    l was reading about some of Edgar Cayces’s past-life readings for some people he said were reincarnations of famous types. l noticed that some on these past lives were those said to be Mother and SA, so it looks like someone has got it badly wrong. l know you can have multiple emanations at the same time [contemporaneous] but l don’t think this is the likely answer here. Cayce lived between 1877-1945.
    Sri Aurobindo (1872-08-15)-(1950-12-05) (aged 78). Not many years between them.
    So, cayce was giving readings to people who were alive at the same time as SA and MOTHER.
    Just about every life claimed by SA and the Mother were also claimed by people who went to cayce for a reading!!
    Elizabeth 1st
    Helen of Troy
    Joan of Arc
    etc…
    Below is one of SA’s past lives as Augustus Caesar.

    “3. Augustus and His Empire – A seventy-six-year-old businessman received a reading stating that he had lived as the Roman Emperor Augustus. His reading stated that as Augustus he had promoted the desire within individuals to seek the spiritual source of supply – a fascinating interpretation of Augustus’s contribution with implications for modern times. Several other individuals with past lives during Augustus’s reign are also reviewed.”

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    1. Sandeep Post author

      As I said in an earlier comment, I don’t venture into such highly speculative discussions.

      It is not important to me
      1) who Sri Aurobindo and the Mother were in their past lives
      2) what happened to the Mother’s body after her passing away
      3) where they currently are and when they will return.

      Sri Aurobindo himself once cautioned people against wasting time on these issues:

      With reference to a remark by the Mother “We have all met in previous lives”, a disciple asked Sri Aurobindo: Who precisely are “we”? Do both of you remember me? Did I often serve you for this work in the past?

      Sri Aurobindo: It is a general principle announced which covers all who are called to the work. At the time the Mother was seeing the past (or part of it) of those to whom she spoke and that is why she said this. At present we are too much occupied with the crucial work in the physical consciousness to go into these things. Moreover we find that it encouraged a sort of vital romanticism in the Sadhaks which made them attach more importance to these things than to the hard work of Sadhana, so we have stopped speaking of past lives and personalities. (Collected Works of the Mother, vol. 3, p 302)

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  7. mike

    Yes, sandeep l understand your position, but l don’t think cayce is speculating and l was pointing to the flaws in his knowledge rather than whether SA and Mother were so and so in a previous life.
    l mean, the whole subject of ‘reincarnation’ is ‘Speculative’ isn’t it.
    l’m inclined to believe SA and Mother were who they said they were in past lives, so for me it’s not speculation and what l’m really indicating is the limitation in cayce’s method. l think people need to be aware that the so-called ‘Greatest Psychic of the century’ actually might not be.
    But, if your going to say everything is ‘speculative’ from now on, l’ll make this my last post.
    Thanks for all the information, l’ve learn’t a lot here.

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    1. Sandeep Post author

      You can continue to comment and even speculate on these aspects… 🙂

      All I am saying is that I can’t get involved in it. It just creates too much confusion to dwell on issues which are beyond my measly occult powers.

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  8. mike

    Yes. your right Sandeep. Re-incarnation is highly speculative and without something like yoga-dhrishti or whatever it’s called, or inner contact with the psychic being it’s always going to be IMO.
    l thought the research l found below, however, by a man called Brianstalin, might interest someone here. The Past-Life resemblances of these ppl is downright uncanny. He says he was trained by the Dalai Lama and other tibetan teaches in accessing the Akashic Records. Be that as it may, his research has thrown up some amazing stuff. l know SA definitely looked like his past incarnations – Leonardo and Augustus, so this seems to make sense – that we tend to repeat the way we look in previous lives. Knowing my past lives has never really been important to me but this did pique my interest.
    l’ve put a link to the Keannu Reeves pictures below [first pic is his supposed previous life and second his previous life pic beside himself now]. There are many others on this man’s blog – http://brianstalin-index.blogspot.co.uk/
    l’m pretty sure there has been no editing or tampering cos l checked and there are biographical records on wikipaedia etc…

    [SANDEEP : I fixed the comment to ensure the 1st photo appears, but I got an error on the 2nd photo. It is non-existent – http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2427/4082778326_5eff5ae00a_o.jpg%5B/IMG%5D%5D

    Keanu reeves

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    1. 1adt1

      Mike, where (in which books or so) did Sri Aurobindo and/ or Mother Mirra say whom they had been in past lives? I’ve never read that. [Sandeep, if you know, please tell me either here or in a private email.]

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      1. Sandeep Post author

        This article on past incarnations reminds me of another point I need to add to the “Practising Yoga without a Guru” article, which is that after the passing of a Guru, people spend inordinate amounts of time in reminiscing who they actually were, how great they were and all the work they did.

        The Guru says “live in the present” but people get stuck in that past moment, recalling adoringly how he said those words and what happened after that. This is nostalgia. We ought to be studying ourselves (becoming more self-aware) rather than obsessively studying Sri Aurobindo and the Mother.

        [Just added a new section to the “Practising Yoga without a Guru” article on this topic”]

      2. Mansee

        How precisely you expressed it Sandeep! I have also noticed that some of us have the habit of comparing our actions/circumstances with those of Masters (ofcourse to find answers), but how can two lives be so easily compared? That is why SA&M emphasised so much on experiences, which are unique for everyone i guess.
        What the soul sees and has experienced, that it knows; the rest is appearance, prejudice and opinion.

        Sri Aurobindo

      3. Sandeep Post author

        The same phenomenon was observed after the passing of the Buddha. It was then that the Jataka tales, which narrate the past incarnations of the Buddha (mouse, deer, elephant, outcast and what not), were born. This was also the time when the Dharmakaya doctrine, which states that the Buddha pre-existed in a perfected state even before his birth, began circulating. The Goddess Tara was also added to Buddhism, probably inherited from the Shaktas.

        It is doubtful if the Buddha, who was himself silent on abstruse metaphysical topics, was responsible for these accretions. It was the arrival of Nagarjuna (the second Buddha), who laid stress on the Madhyamaka doctrine, that cleared the air.

  9. mike

    Thanks Sandeep. don’t know why the other one is non-existent – perhaps it’s too big? l’ve put another link to it below:

    [SANDEEP: Nope, this photo is accessible]

    keanu

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  10. mike

    Thanks.
    l’ll just put some info about what he says about this previous incarnation [paul mounet].

    “Paul Mounet was a French actor and the brother of Jean-Sully Mounet.

    He became a doctor of medicine, and first appeared on the stage in Horace at the Paris Odéon (1880). It was in 1889 that he first played at the Comédie Française, of which he became sociétaire two years later. Mounet gained his reputation in Les Erynnyes, L’Arlésienne, Othello, Patrie, Hamlet, La Furie, Anthony, Le Roi, L’Enigme, Le Dédale, and Œdipe Roi. He served also as a professor at the Paris Conservatoire and became Chevalier of the Legion of Honor.

    Some people (displaying greater psychic intuition than the false, self-proclaimed and cheating media psychic experts on reincarnation) have been intrigued by the striking resemblance between Paul Mounet and Keanu Reeves.
    This match is actually confirmed by the Akashic Records!

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      1. mike

        Yes, 1adt1, that site you gave is mostly to do with new-age channeling, l believe, which l find a highly dubious and dangerous practice.
        On that site they mention two past-life practicioners – Ryerson and Semkiw – these two ppl are denounced by Brianstalin [where l got the pics of keannu reeves from] as quoted below. l’m not absolutely sure about brianstalin but l tend to agree with a lot that he says and l believe SA and Mother have said similar things.
        “…The fact that I do not agree with Dr Semkiw or with Ahtun Re – the entity that speaks through Kevin Ryerson (Ryerson confirms all of Dr Semkiw’s matches) is not much of a surprise.

        The information obtained from deep trance states i.e. from hypnotherapy and deep trance channeling is unsatisfactory, because of suggestion by the therapist (programmer?) and the Lower Astral entities of the Astral Plane (who have a vested interest in keeping humanity in a state of ignorance)”.”

  11. Sandeep Post author

    This is a funny commercial on Indian television for Greenply plywood. A Sikh boy riding in a bus sees a house which kindles recognition of his past life incarnation as a Tamil man. His wife from his past life then recognizes him by his mannerisms

    This is the translation of the script posted by someone on youtube

    Boy: Stop..!
    Boy: Stop The Bus..!
    Boy: Stop the damn vehicle..!
    Boy: My Home….!
    Man: Who the hell is this…?
    Boy: My Table…! (once again)
    Boy: Savithri (My Love)
    Old Woman (Savithri):Swami, my Swami (She recognized her husband’s soul in the boy)

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    1. Sandeep Post author

      It may not be immediately clear, but advertisement is for Greenply furniture which is supposed to last across lifetimes. Hence, they introduced reincarnation to sell the product.

      Btw, if you hit the “Reply” button below a comment, your comment will get nested instead of appearing below it.

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      1. mike

        Yeah, l didn’t quite get the ‘greenply’ thing lol
        Didn’t realise about the ‘reply’ button – thanks.

  12. Anirudh Kumar Satsangi

    Unaccomplished activities of past lives are also one of the causes for reincarnation. Some of us reincarnate to complete the unfinished tasks of previous birth. This is evident from my own story of reincarnation:
    “My most Revered Guru of my previous life His Holiness Maharaj Sahab, 3rd Spiritual Head of Radhasoami Faith had revealed this secret to me during trance like state of mine. This was sort of REVELATION.
    HE told me, “Tum Sarkar Sahab Ho” (You are Sarkar Sahab). Sarkar Sahab was one of the most beloved disciple of His Holiness Maharj Sahab. Sarkar Sahab later on became Fourth Spiritual Head of Radhasoami Faith.
    Since I don’t have any direct realization of it so I can not claim the extent of its correctness. But it seems to be correct. During my previous birth I wanted to sing the song of ‘Infinite’ (Agam Geet yeh gawan chahoon tumhri mauj nihara, mauj hoi to satguru soami karoon supanth vichara) but I could not do so then since I had to leave the mortal frame at a very early age. But through the unbounded Grace and Mercy of my most Revered Guru that desire of my past birth is being fulfilled now.”
    I am one the chief expounder and supporter of Gravitation Force Theory of God. This is most scientific and secular theory of God. This is the Theory of Universal Religion. I have given Higher Theory of Everything. Sometimes back I posted this as comments to a blog on:
    ‘Fighting of the Cause of Allah by Governing a Smart Mathematics Based on Islamic Teology’
    By Rohedi of Rohedi Laboratories, Indonesia. Rohedi termed my higher theory of everything more wonderful than which has been developed by Stephen Hawking. Some details are quoted below:
    rohedi
    @anirudh kumar satsangi
    Congratulation you have develop the higher theory of everything more wonderful than which has been developed by Stephen Hawking. Hopefully your some views for being considered for Unified Field Theory are recognized by International Science Community, hence I soon read the fundamental aspect proposed by you.
    I have posted my comments to the Blog of Syed K. Mirza on Evolutionary Science vs. Creation Theory, and Intellectual Hypocrisy. Syed Mirza seems to be a very liberal muslim. He responded to my comments as mentioned below.
    “Many thanks for your very high thought explanations of God.
    You said:
    “Hence it can be assumed that the Current of Chaitanya (Consciousness) and Gravitational Wave are the two names of the same Supreme Essence (Seed) which has brought forth the entire creation. Hence it can be assumed that the source of current of consciousness and gravitational wave is the same i.e. God or ultimate creator.
    (i) Gravitation Force is the Ultimate Creator, Source of Gravitational Wave is God”
    Whatever you call it, God is no living God of any religion. Yes, when I call it “Mother Nature” is the God generated from all Natural forces and Gravitational force is the nucleus of all forces or we can presume that Gravitation is the ultimate guiding principle of this Mother Nature we call it non-living God unlike living personal God of religions. I can not believe any personal God would do so much misery created for its creation. Hence, only non-living natural God can explain everything in the Universe. When we think of any living personal God, things do not ad up!”
    I have also discovered the mathematical expression for emotional quotient (E.Q.) and for spiritual quotient (S.Q.).

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    1. Sandeep Post author

      I am one the chief expounder and supporter of Gravitation Force Theory of God. This is most scientific and secular theory of God. This is the Theory of Universal Religion. I have given Higher Theory of Everything.

      I hope you realize that people who propound such outlandish theories are more likely to be labeled as crackpots. Your theory is unlikely to be accepted by anyone other than a few stray bloggers. If you have taken rebirth for this purpose, you are going to be disappointed in this lifetime. If you persist in this task, you will have to be reborn many more times until you realize the futility of your venture.

      I have also discovered the mathematical expression for emotional quotient (E.Q.) and for spiritual quotient (S.Q.)

      Again, you need to prove it by publishing the proof to convince mainstream scientists otherwise the remainder will be larger than the modulus.

      Please do not publish the proof as a comment to this blog.

      Reply

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